In this inaugural guest Bonus/subscriber-only episode, museum professional and long-time Conversation listener Stefanie Kogler-Heimburger talks about:

Her pronounced accent in English which sounds not at all like her native German; her podcast consumption, including a German podcast about gin, in addition to art podcasts; her fellow German, and 2-time past guest Lee Wagstaff, from whom she bought a print early in the pandemic; what Stuttgart, where she lives, is like as far as its art spaces and community, including its central museum; her job at the Kunstmuseum Reutlingen as the assistant to the curator, which is part-time and very accommodating as a career in terms of being able to work from home and being paid for maternity leave (she had a year off); but also, the challenges of the museum curating hierarchy, in terms of advancement, and existing in the job as a ‘nice to have’ rather than a necessity in a world that is chronically underfunded, and how one gets treated with that ‘nice to have’ status; the work she does as assistant to the curator, including a lot of PR & marketing work; working on one of her favorite shows at the museum, with Italian artist Gianni Caravaggio; and we share our own thoughts and feelings about the whole ‘separating the artist from the art’ phenomenon, vis-à-vis Tom Sachs et al; and the douchy-ness of the art world, from the hierarchies to the artists and curators who behave like douches, and whether we’re turning a corner as far as there being too much tolerance on the part of workers, and too much douchery on the part of those in positions of power.

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